This episode is very much worth listening to, especially for its discussion of how the nation seems to be “sleepwalking” into a disastrous situation next spring as a consequence of the Senate’s failure to reach 67 votes to convict Trump on his January 6 impeachment. One detail was news to me: Chuck Todd said definitively that Senator Mitch McConnell had the 67 votes necessary for a conviction, but chose not to pursue it for fear of its effect on the Republican Party’s chances in the 2022 midterms. That was not my understanding from reading Jonathan Martin and Alexander Burns, This Will Not Pass. Nor, by my reading, is the account provided by Rachel Bade and Karoun Demirjian, which was excerpted in the Washington Post from their Unchecked book, as definitive as that. I’d be curious if any ELB readers are aware of reporting in books or articles that support the proposition that McConnell would have been successful in securing a conviction on this impeachment charge if McConnell had chosen to pursue it.