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“The National Popular Vote (NPV) Proposal for U.S. Presidential Elections Undermines Election Integrity”

H/t to Sean Parnell for the new paper by Ron Rivest and Philip Stark:

National Popular Vote (NPV) Interstate Compact [Koza et al., 2024] attempts to provide direct presidential elections in the U.S. without a constitutional amendment, through a binding agreement among “member” states comprising a majority in the Electoral College. The compact is intended to ensure that a majority of Electoral College votes go to the winner of the national popular vote. It does not succeed. The “national popular winner” has no objectively fair or correct definition if any state uses a non-plurality method (such as ranked-choice voting) for presidential elections, as two states currently do. NPV does not demand any particular method for states to determine tallies for nonplurality voting methods. NPV requires member states to accept as conclusive and correct the reported vote tallies in every state-including states that are not members of the compact. It does not require evidence that reported tallies are accurate, does not provide a way for member states to demand such evidence, and does not provide any remedy even if state-level results are untrustworthy or absurd. Even the best current state-level audits do not provide evidence that state totals are (approximately) correct. Auditing NPV would require sweeping changes to state election administration and federal legislation that ensures coordination among states. Because of these faults, any individual state, whether a party to the compact or not, could alter the outcome of the presidential election through error or malfeasance-or simply by following state law. The NPV compact undermines the trustworthiness of U.S. elections. NPV is a bad idea unless every state is required to use plurality voting and report those votes accurately in their Certificate of Ascertainment (we call this a simple direct election), has a trustworthy, organized, physically inventoried paper trail of votes and a rigorous canvass; and there is a federal requirement to conduct a rigorous, binding risk-limiting audit (at the national level) of the outcome of the presidential contest. For the foreseeable future, adopting NPV is worse than doing nothing.

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“Republicans bring back fake electors in battlegrounds”

Politico:

Many of the people preparing to cast votes for Donald Trump in the Electoral College in 2024 were involved in his plot to subvert the election in 2020.

Some are even facing criminal charges for it.

Of the 93 Republicans designated as prospective presidential electors for Trump from the seven battleground states, eight are facing felony charges for signing false Electoral College certificates in 2020, according to a POLITICO analysis. Another five signed similar certificates in 2020 but were not charged. And at least six others played notable roles in challenging the results of the 2020 election or promoting election conspiracy theories.

All told, at least 1 in 5 prospective Trump electors from battleground states this year had some connection to the scheme to overturn the 2020 election.

There’s little reason to believe that Trump or his allies would attempt to reenact the false elector scheme, given the prolonged criminal proceedings against the fake electors and the maturation of the “Stop the Steal” movement. But the reemergence of these Republicans demonstrates the power that election denialism continues to hold in a Republican Party led by Trump, who routinely foments false claims of voter fraud — and has deployed some of those same false claims to raise doubts about the 2024 election.

Rather than being punished or shunted aside for their role in an attempt to overturn a democratic election, they’ve been elevated. The GOP has rewarded those accused of felony crimes with a return to the coveted position they stand accused of abusing four years ago.

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The Time of Choosing Clause and its constraint on more outlandish Electoral College scenarios

There have been some doomsday scenarios about activities state legislature might engage in after Election Day. A little context (and a long blog post!) may help explain why state legislatures are not free to do whatever they’d like, contrary to some right-leaning and left-leaning commentary over the last few weeks.

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Some risks about overstating risks this election

In the midst of so many disaster scenarios and worries ahead of this election, it’s worth noting that the more that risks are overstated, the more legitimate those risks appear. It’s been disappointing to see many stories (too many to aggregate, but I did a bit here) continuing to overstate those risks.

The New York Times has two such comments in recent stories, and they are emblematic of themes carried elsewhere in other stories. First, “Trump Hints at ‘Little Secret’ With House Republicans, Setting Off a Panic.”

Still, Mr. Johnson would not be a powerless bystander. He could help organize Republican lawsuits or pressure state boards of elections to throw out legitimate votes. He could reject the electors from certain states, and he could try to refuse to seat new Democratic members of the House.

No single member of the House, from the Speaker on down, has the power to “reject the electors from certain states.” The Electoral Count Act and the Electoral Count Reform Act are crystal clear that it takes majorities of both houses to sustain any objections. The Twenty-Second Joint Rule, the precursor to the ECA in the mid nineteenth century, required at least a majority of one house. Implanting the notion that a speaker “could reject the electors” is legally incorrect but gives not only some fear that it may happen but some suggested legal authenticity to a plainly unlawful act.

Second, “Could the Vote Be Contested Again? 5 Threats to a Smooth Election.

Congress, however, does play a constitutionally defined role in certifying the presidential results and the slates of electors from the Electoral College, on Jan. 6. In the 2020 election, this process was disrupted by Republicans who voted to challenge several slates of electors and were able to do so with a single protest from each chamber.

Under the new law, challenging a slate of electors will now require a vote from 20 percent of each chamber — a higher bar, but one still likely to be cleared by extreme party loyalists from both sides.

There is no evidence that an objection is “likely.” The Senate has been extraordinarily reluctant to join objections. It did not do so for attempted objections by the House in 2001 or 2017. Only one Senator joined an objection to Ohio’s votes in 2005 and to Pennsylvania’s votes in 2021. And a handful–below 20%–joined on to Arizona’s votes in 2021. That’s in stark contrast to dozens of House members–and in 2021, over 100 House members–who attempted to join objections.

It’s possible, of course, that past performance does not indicate a future likelihood of successful objections. But one good reason for raising the threshold to a figure like 20% is the ability to stave off objections–and had this threshold been in place, counterfactuals concededly aside, none of these objections would have had air time.

With these and other claims, it is important to be precise, to distinguish legally plausible scenarios from implausible ones and to assess risks with caution in the days ahead.

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“There Is No ‘Little Secret’ Speaker Power over the Electoral Count”

Andy Craig at Cato at Liberty:

The Speaker’s role during the electoral count is, in fact, nearly non-existent. There are no lawful mechanisms for the Speaker to derail the joint session of Congress without the backing of concurrent majorities in both the House and the Senate. The job of the Speaker is much more constrained here than their usual authority over the House. 

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“‘We addressed it’: Why this election will be harder to stop on Jan. 6, 2025”

Senators on the record, from Burgess Everett and Elana Schor at Semafor:

The US and world are bracing for post-election chaos in Washington on Jan. 6, 2025, as Congress prepares to name a presidential winner. The reality is another story: It will be much harder to stop the certification this time around.

Lawmakers believe that their approval of the electoral count is far more likely to go smoothly this time around, despite former President Donald Trump’s celebration of the rioters who disrupted the certification of his loss four years ago. Thanks to an under-the-radar bipartisan 2022 law that significantly narrowed members’ abilities to challenge presidential election results, Hill denizens are breathing a little easier as the election approaches.

One key change: Previously, only one senator and House member could join forces to object to any state’s presidential results and force a vote. That objection threshold is now orders of magnitude higher — 20 senators and 87 House members, one-fifth of each chamber.

“I fully expect that there will be some attempts to have baseless objections. But I do not believe they will be able to meet the 20 percent threshold in each body,” Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, one of the law’s chief sponsors, told Semafor. “The reforms we enacted will go a long way toward preventing another January 6.”

. . .

Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C. compared the upcoming Jan. 6 certification to the year 2000s Y2k scare, which stoked fears of disaster that didn’t pan out.

“It could be a dud. But to the extent that we have any vulnerabilities coming out of Jan. 6, 2021, we addressed it,” said Tillis, who unlike Collins has endorsed Trump.

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ELB 6:2 The United States Electoral College and Fair Elections (Fishkin, Hollis-Brusky, Muller)

Welcome to Season 6, Episode 2 of the ELB Podcast:

Why do we have the Electoral College and is its use justified today?

Why do Democrats and Republicans think differently about the Electoral College?

Does the Electoral College make it harder or easier to subvert American elections?

On Season 6, Episode 2 of the ELB Podcast we speak with Joey Fishkin of UCLA Law, Amanda Hollis-Brusky of Pomona College, and Derek Muller of Notre Dame Law School.

You can subscribe on SoundcloudApple Podcasts, and Spotify.

(There may be some technical difficulties with accessing the podcast right now on Spotify).

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“Congress’s Power Over the Electoral Count”

This looks to be an important draft from Larry Schwartztol. Here is the abstract:

Does Congress have authority to pass legislation regulating the counting of electoral votes? This is a consequential question for the legal framework governing presidential elections. In 2022, Congress passed the Electoral Count Reform Act (“ECRA”), which overhauled the statutory regime governing the counting of electoral votes. The ECRA’s predecessor statute, which had been in place since 1887, had long been criticized as ambiguous and unnecessarily convoluted. Those deficiencies were widely seen as a contributing cause of the attacks on the Capitol of January 6, 2021, and a rare bipartisan majority in Congress passed the ECRA to address the earlier statute’s shortcomings. Yet it did so against a backdrop of unresolved questions about Congress’s authority to legislate in this area. The scholarly literature, however, lacks a sustained defense of Congress’s power to regulate the counting of electoral votes. This Article aims to fill that gap. It does so in two ways. First, it engages with the skeptics of Congress’s authority on their traditional terrain, locating ample congressional authority grounded in the text, structure, and history of Article II and the Twelfth Amendment. The Article then seeks to expand the analytic framework by focusing on a constitutional provision that tends to stay out of the limelight: the Twentieth Amendment, which reconfigures the period between Election Day and Inauguration Day. In defending Congress’s authority to pass laws regulating the counting of electoral votes, this Article provides the first scholarly treatment of the Twentieth Amendment’s significance in this area.

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“Colorado Supreme Court committee advances election-related change”

In the immediate aftermath of passage of the Electoral Count Reform Act, I noted that state legislatures should look to update their laws surrounding the timing of elections and litigation disputes. And last year, I highlighted some states that have done so. But courts are taking the cue, too, in terms of their ability to expedite election litigation. Pennsylvania recently enacted new rules to speed up election disputes. And now Colorado has similar rules pending, as shared in this story over at Colorado Politics (the text is here). Ex ante rules for docket control are good tools for courts entering a contested election season.

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October 8 Live Event at UCLA Hammer Museum: “The United States Electoral College and Fair Elections”

Very much looking forward to moderating this event:

Hammer Forum

 Part of the series Hammer Forum: 2024 Presidential Election

Tuesday Oct 8, 2024 7:30 PM

Hammer Forums are made possible by the Rosenbloom Family. 

Co-presented with the Safeguarding Democracy Project at UCLA Law

Why does the United States use the Electoral College for choosing the President? Is the Electoral College a fair way to choose a President? What specific risks does the method for choosing electors pose for free and fair elections? How likely is the United States to adopt a national popular vote instead of the Electoral College? Moderated by Rick Hasen, UCLA Law. Panelists: Joey Fishkin, UCLA Law; Amanda Hollis-Brusky, Pomona College; Derek Muller, University of Notre Dame

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“Republicans’ Electoral College Edge, Once Seen as Ironclad, Looks to Be Fading”

Nate Cohn:

Ever since Donald J. Trump’s stunning victory in 2016 — when he lost the popular vote by almost three million votes but still triumphed with over 300 electoral votes — many who follow politics have believed Republicans hold an intractable advantage in the Electoral College.

But there’s growing evidence to support a surprising possibility: His once formidable advantage in the Electoral College is not as ironclad as many presumed. Instead, it might be shrinking.

According to The New York Times’s polling average, it does not seem that Kamala Harris will necessarily need to win the popular vote by much to prevail.

The simplest way to measure the advantage in the Electoral College is to take the difference between the national popular vote and the vote in the “tipping-point” state (the state that puts one candidate over the top in the Electoral College). Right now, Vice President Harris leads the polling in the national vote by 2.6 percentage points, and leads Wisconsin — the current tipping-point state — by 1.8 points, which makes Mr. Trump’s advantage less than a point.

By this measure, Mr. Trump’s advantage is only around one-fifth as large as it was four years ago, when he fared 3.8 points better nationally than in Wisconsin (the tipping-point state in 2020).

How is it possible?…

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